 (L-R) The 2009 Bayer Profit Maximizer Wheat Summit Grower Panel: John R. Evans,
Josh Lloyd, Adam Froetschner, Richard Cott, Carl Schroeder and Jesse Doll. | 




Grower Panel 
- Farming since 1976
- One-third irrigated, two-thirds dryland
- Irrigation rotation: corn-soybeans-wheat
- Dryland rotation: wheat-sorghum-soybean
- Began no-till more than 30 years ago
 - Farming since 1991
- 11,000 dryland acres
- Rotation: one-third wheat, one-third sorghum; and one-third corn, alfalfa, fallow
- Used GPS strip-tilling on sorghum acres
- Experimenting with RTK guidance systems
 - Farming since 1967
- 4,500 acres, split evenly between irrigated and dryland
- 2,300 acres corn, 800 acres of soybeans, 1,400 acres of wheat
- Certified seed wheat grower for more than 30 years
- No-till since 2001
- Early adopter of GPS and RTK auto-steer technology
 - Farming since 1995
- 5,350 total tillable acres
- 2,100 acres of wheat, 2,100 acres of grain sorghum, 1,100 acres of corn, 50 acres to alfalfa
- 95 percent no-till for five years
- Continuously no-till on some acres since 1996
 - Farming since 1999
- Rotation of wheat-sorghum-soybeans, with corn and sunflowers
- Plants double crops, cover crops on wheat stubble
- Guidance and yield mapping since 1999
- On-farm research to evaluate growing practices and input options
 - Farming since 1971
- 100% no-till since 2005
- Rotation includes canola, sorghum, soybeans, sunflowers, wheat
- Cow-calf herd, customs farms
- Full-time rural mail carrier
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A key component of the Profit
Maximizer Wheat Summit is the
Grower Panel, where a select
group of producers discuss production
methods on their individual farms and
give the audience ideas to take home for
their own operations.
This year’s Grower Panel included
growers from a wide range of backgrounds.
Some can be classified as young
farmers building their operations, others
are maintaining their family farms, and
a few are even looking toward the future
and planning for life after farming.
The panel included: Richard Cott,
Clay Center, Kan.; Jesse Doll, Garden
City, Kan.; John Evans, Hutchinson,
Kan.; Adam Froetschner, Kinsley, Kan.;
Josh Lloyd, Clay Center, Kan.; and Carl
Schroeder, Okarche, Okla. Moderator
Kyle Bauer, KFRM Radio general
manager, posed several questions to the
growers and took questions from the
audience. Profit Maximizer Wheat Summit
is sponsored by Bayer CropScience,
High Plains Journal and KFRM.
Farming goals
Each grower was asked to discuss his
objective for his own farming operation,
and profitability was an underlying theme.
With good farm prices, Bauer asked the
growers their financial goals. For the most
part, all said they were looking to pay
down their debt, build infrastructure on
the farm, and upgrade equipment.
“Probably, our focus is to build grain
storage and a shop,” Cott said. “And, we
want to pay down our debt.”
“I hope to upgrade our equipment and
apply some lime to some land that needs
it, and purchase or rent some land in my
area,” Lloyd said.
“I’m looking for an exit strategy, and
so I think I’ll use it to pay down debt,”
Evans said.
Rotational preferences
Rotations are always a topic of discussion
for farmers, and the Grower Panel
was no exception.
For example, Schroeder is in his third
year of no-till in an area of Oklahoma
that is prime wheat and cattle country.
“I have to stay flexible,” Schroeder said.
“Almost all ground is in wheat on wheat,
but this year weather kept us out of the
field and we’re trying to decide if we’ll
let those acres winter fallow and plant in
the spring.” He added for three years he
planted wheat after wheat, but this past
year he had a bad Hessian fly infestation
on his acres, and so he plans to try a different
crop to curb the issue.
The panel was varied in how they use
no-till in their operations, but all were
very positive toward the practice.
“We have a rotation of wheat, milo,
fallow and wheat,” Doll said. “Our milo
is in strip-till, and we spray our stalks
about two times and then blade our ammonia
on before we drill back to wheat.”
Froetschner added he’s used no-till to
recoup some badly terraced land.
Rotations also depend on crop prices,
according to panel members.
“Input costs may be coming down, but when you run the figures, wheat
doesn’t look profitable right now,” Cott
said. “So, do we plant less acres to
wheat? Maybe we drop some irrigated
wheat acres we normally would have
planted after corn.”
Balancing inputs and profits
It’s difficult to operate effectively with
rising input costs, and Bauer asked the
panel to give advice on how they manage
to do so.
“Most all farmers try to operate as
effectively as they can, and I’m pleased
that costs have gone down as much as
they have,” Cott said. “We adjusted our
rates last year, cut some phosphorous applications.
This year we may be back to
normal because costs are down. We run
as lean of a shop as possible, but there
aren’t a whole lot of places you can cut.”
Doll and Evans agreed with Cott and
said while they’d cut their phosphorous
applications recently, they’d return to
normal rates this year.
Lloyd explained while input costs are
down, he’s trying to get caught up on
improving his wheat acres by applying
some lime this year, so it’s available for
future crops. “We try to stay lean, too,
with our machinery,” he added. “We
only have an air seeder, a sprayer and a
combine.”
Scouting decisions
The panel agreed scouting their wheat
isn’t high on their priority lists. Several
use consultants, while others scout their
own acres and take their own samples.
“Scouting is one of my weakest areas,”
Schroeder said. “I use a consultant
and I learn not to second-guess him.”
“We do our own scouting, in the fall
and spring, and I take tissue samples to
see if we have fertilizer issues,” Lloyd
said.
“I do most of our scouting with my
brother in the winter months,” Doll said.
“We can go December to January without
looking, but do more in the spring.”
Soil testing was another topic of
discussion for the panel. Most on the
panel sampled, but for Doll and Lloyd,
they leaned more on tissue sampling to
determine fertilizer application need.
“With our tissue sampling, we can see
where the crop is at and use that data for
when we grow next year’s crop,” Doll
said.
“We had a field of second year milo on
milo, and it looked a little yellow,” Cott
said. “I thought we were short on nitrogen,
but the samples showed we were
short on sulfur. We learned that ahead of
next year.”
Fungicide use
Fungicide usage varies geographically,
and Bauer asked the panel to tell a little
about their own experience with fungicides.
“I’ve never used fungicides, but there
have been a year or two where I should
have,” Schroeder said. “I’m usually late
in figuring it out.” Schroeder’s area has
had several wet springs that can call for
fungicide applications.
“Traditionally, we don’t use fungicides,
but we began about two or three
years ago,” Lloyd said. “We prefer to
manage through selecting resistant wheat
varieties. But, if we’re going back into
a field with wheat, we’ll go ahead and
spray and monitor ourselves with a
check strip. It doesn’t pay for us to apply
fungicides to soybean ground, so we just
monitor it. We’ve seen a 5- to 15-bushel
difference on our wheat on wheat acres.”
“We grow seed wheat, and so we’ve used
fungicides for years,” Evans said. “We get higher test weights and lower
clean outs. We’ve seen a lot of head scab
in our area in prior years, too.”
All applied their fungicides using
ground sprayers. When it comes down
to deciding to apply or not, though, it’s a
financial decision, the growers said.
“If it works with the price of wheat,
we apply,” Evans said. “A year ago,
wheat prices were high and fungicide
was the same. This year, it’s closer. It
makes a difference if you apply at $4.50
wheat versus $8 wheat.”
“Marketing is a big part of the decision,”
Froetschner said. “We have dry
winters and so, if the stuff looks good,
we’ll put the money to it.”
Phosphorous and nitrogen
placement
Nitrogen and phosphorous applications
also varied among the panel
members.
“We apply our phosphorous in furrow
at planting, and nitrogen on the bare
ground,” Cott said. He follows up with
an application of anhydrous ammonia on
his no-till acres.
Doll, though, pastures most of his
wheat, and so he applies his phosphorous
at the pre-plant stage, in furrow with the
drill. “We start planting about Sept. 10 to
15, and then we pasture ours,” he said.
“If we have the opportunity, we’ll topdress
some after we pull off the cattle.”
Evans said he applies about 10 to 34
pounds of phosphorous in furrow and
follows with 30 pounds of nitrogen,
either at pre-planting or during planting,
which works for his seed business.
Schroeder, in Oklahoma, likes to apply
his phosphorous in furrow at planting,
and then splits his nitrogen application
between the fall and spring.
Variety choices
Seed selection is as individual as the
farmer who plants the seed, and the
Grower Panel had some interesting reasoning
behind their selection decisions.
“I plant a lot of blended seed on our
acres,” Cott said. “I know we should
have some early and some late, but this
way we’re pretty close in planting and
harvest.”
Doll said he’s planted hard white
winter wheat on his southwestern Kansas
farm for many years, but recently his
elevator has started docking his wheat.
So he may have to change his plans in
the future. “We plant some Post Rock,
some TAM 111, Jagalene, and some
Danby hard white winter wheat,” he
said. “We’ve planted white wheat pretty
regular since Trego was first out.”
Seed treatments
Treating seed can be a costly measure,
but some farmers, like a few on
the panel, find it helpful to their overall
bottom lines.
“We use seed treatments pretty
regularly,” Cott said. He and his brother
apply Raxil at the time they are blending
their wheat seed, he added.
Others, like Evans, Froetschner and
Lloyd find it helpful to apply their seed
treatments on the truck as the seed is going
into the drill.
“We apply as we’re going into the drill
through the auger,” Lloyd said. “This
year, we plan to have the seed dealer do
it for us, though.”
Marketing philosophy
Savvy crop marketing is the key to
farming success, and Bauer asked the
panel to share their insights.
“We set goals on a per bushel basis,”
Doll said. “We look at contracts and the
futures market and set our goals. It’s hard
to figure sometimes, though.”
“It’s changing for us,” Cott said. “We
don’t market a lot ahead. Last year, we
had the opportunity to pay down a little
debt, and we did. We mostly market in
the local area, and we sell ahead some.
Our consultant works with us some.”
“We haven’t figured out what to do,”
Evans said. “With the seed business, we
forward contract at times, but not now.
It’s difficult to latch hold (to a selling
point) on the way down, when you think
the market should be higher.”
“We figure our goals on about half of
what we normally raise, and then everything
else is put into options,” Froetschner
said.
“We are doing better,” Lloyd said.
“We plug in our expected yield and our
cost to break even. We’ve done some
forward contracting in a few years. But
we changed our mindset. It used to be
that we’d harvest our crop, put it in the
bin, then worry about selling it. Now, we
sell it a year before and then harvest.”
“I hope to take Mark Gold’s advice
from today and spend five minutes on
our plan,” Schroeder said. “My wife and
I have talked for years about the need to
do that, and it’s time.”
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